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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:35 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:59 pm 
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Here is something that was emailed to me, that has a lot of interest info:

>
>
> Found on lostmediamentions this is some guy from Bad Robot (the company that produced Lost) amazing post:
>
> Good stuff on here! I can finally throw in my two cents! I've had to
> bite my tongue for far too long. Also, hopefully I can answer some of
> John's questions about Dharma and the "pointless breadcrumbs" that
> really, weren't so pointless ...
>
> First ...
> The Island:
>
> It was real. Everything that happened on the island that we saw
> throughout the 6 seasons was real. Forget the final image of the plane
> crash, it was put in purposely to fuck with people's heads and show
> how far the show had come. They really crashed. They really survived.
> They really discovered Dharma and the Others. The Island keeps the
> balance of good and evil in the world. It always has and always will
> perform that role. And the Island will always need a "Protector".
> Jacob wasn't the first, Hurley won't be the last. However, Jacob had
> to deal with a malevolent force (MIB) that his mother, nor Hurley had
> to deal with. He created the devil and had to find a way to kill him
> -- even though the rules prevented him from actually doing so.
>
> Thus began Jacob's plan to bring candidates to the Island to do the
> one thing he couldn't do. Kill the MIB. He had a huge list of
> candidates that spanned generations. Yet everytime he brought people
> there, the MIB corrupted them and caused them to kill one another.
> That was until Richard came along and helped Jacob understand that if
> he didn't take a more active role, then his plan would never work.
>
> Enter Dharma -- which I'm not sure why John is having such a hard time
> grasping. Dharma, like the countless scores of people that were
> brought to the island before, were brought there by Jacob as part of
> his plan to kill the MIB. However, the MIB was aware of this plan and
> interferred by "corrupting" Ben. Making Ben believe he was doing the
> work of Jacob when in reality he was doing the work of the MIB. This
> carried over into all of Ben's "off-island" activities. He was the
> leader. He spoke for Jacob as far as they were concerned. So the
> "Others" killed Dharma and later were actively trying to kill Jack,
> Kate, Sawyer, Hurley and all the candidates because that's what the
> MIB wanted. And what he couldn't do for himself.
>
> Dharma was originally brought in to be good. But was turned bad by
> MIB's corruption and eventually destroyed by his pawn Ben. Now, was
> Dharma only brought there to help Jack and the other Canditates on
> their overall quest to kill Smokey? Or did Jacob have another list of
> Canidates from the Dharma group that we were never aware of? That's a
> question that is purposley not answered because whatever answer the
> writers came up with would be worse than the one you come up with for
> yourself. Still ... Dharma's purpose is not "pointless" or even vague.
> Hell, it's pretty blantent.
>
> Still, despite his grand plan, Jacob wanted to give his "candidates"
> (our Lostaways) the one thing he, nor his brother, were ever afforded:
> free will. Hence him bringing a host of "candidates" through the
> decades and letting them "choose" which one would actually do the job
> in the end. Maybe he knew Jack would be the one to kill Flocke and
> that Hurley would be the protector in the end. Maybe he didn't. But
> that was always the key question of the show: Fate vs Free-will.
> Science vs Faith. Personally I think Jacob knew from the beginning
> what was going to happen and that everyone played a part over 6
> seasons in helping Jack get to the point where he needed to be to kill
> Smokey and make Hurley the protector -- I know that's how a lot of the
> writers viewed it. But again, they won't answer that (nor should they)
> because that ruins the fun.
>
> In the end, Jack got to do what he always wanted to do from the very
> first episode of the show: Save his fellow Lostaways. He got Kate and
> Sawyer off the island and he gave Hurley the purpose in life he'd
> always been missing. And, in Sideways world (which we'll get to next)
> he in fact saved everyone by helping them all move on ...
>
> Now...
>
> Sideways World:
>
> Sideways world is where it gets really cool in terms of theology and
> metaphysical discussion (for me at least -- because I love
> history/religion theories and loved all the talks in the writer's room
> about it). Basically what the show is proposing is that we're all
> linked to certain people during our lives. Call them soulmates (though
> it's not exactly the best word). But these people we're linked to are
> with us duing "the most important moments of our lives" as Christian
> said. These are the people we move through the universe with from
> lifetime to lifetime. It's loosely based in Hinduisim with large doses
> of western religion thrown into the mix.
>
> The conceit that the writers created, basing it off these religious
> philosophies, was that as a group, the Lostaways subconsciously
> created this "sideways" world where they exist in purgatory until they
> are "awakened" and find one another. Once they all find one another,
> they can then move on and move forward. In essence, this is the show's
> concept of the afterlife. According to the show, everyone creates
> their own "Sideways" purgatory with their "soulmates" throughout their
> lives and exist there until they all move on together. That's a
> beautiful notion. Even if you aren't religious or even spirtual, the
> idea that we live AND die together is deeply profound and moving.
>
> It's a really cool and spirtual concept that fits the whole tone and
> subtext the show has had from the beginning. These people were
> SUPPOSED to be together on that plane. They were supposed to live
> through these events -- not JUST because of Jacob. But because that's
> what the universe or God (depending on how religious you wish to get)
> wanted to happen. The show was always about science vs faith -- and it
> ultimately came down on the side of faith. It answered THE core
> question of the series. The one question that has been at the root of
> every island mystery, every character backstory, every plot twist.
> That, by itself, is quite an accomplishment.
>
> How much you want to extrapolate from that is up to you as the viewer.
> Think about season 1 when we first found the Hatch. Everyone thought
> that's THE answer! Whatever is down there is the answer! Then, as we
> discovered it was just one station of many. One link in a very long
> chain that kept revealing more, and more of a larger mosiac.
>
> But the writer's took it even further this season by contrasting this
> Sideways "purgatory" with the Island itself. Remember when Michael
> appeared to Hurley, he said he was not allowed to leave the Island.
> Just like the MIB. He wasn't allowed into this sideways world and
> thus, was not afforded the opportunity to move on. Why? Because he had
> proven himself to be unworthy with his actions on the Island. He
> failed the test. The others, passed. They made it into Sideways world
> when they died -- some before Jack, some years later. In Hurley's
> case, maybe centuries later. They exist in this sideways world until
> they are "awakened" and they can only move on TOGETHER because they
> are linked. They are destined to be together for eternity. That was
> their destiny.
>
> They were NOT linked to Anna Lucia, Daniel, Roussou, Alex, Miles,
> Lupidis, (and all the rest who weren't in the chuch -- basically
> everyone who wasn't in season 1). Yet those people exist in Sideways
> world. Why? Well again, here's where they leave it up to you to
> decide. The way I like to think about it, is that those people who
> were left behind in Sideways world have to find their own soulmates
> before they can wake up. It's possible that those links aren't people
> from the island but from their other life (Anna's parnter, the guy she
> shot --- Roussou's husband, etc etc).
>
> A lot of people have been talking about Ben and why he didn't go into
> the Church. And if you think of Sideways world in this way, then it
> gives you the answer to that very question. Ben can't move on yet
> because he hasn't connected with the people he needs to. It's going to
> be his job to awaken Roussou, Alex, Anna Lucia (maybe), Ethan,
> Goodspeed, his father and the rest. He has to attone for his sins more
> than he did by being Hurley's number two. He has to do what Hurley and
> Desmond did for our Lostaways with his own people. He has to help them
> connect. And he can only move on when all the links in his chain are
> ready to. Same can be said for Faraday, Charlotte, Whidmore, Hawkins
> etc. It's really a neat, and cool concept. At least to me.
>
> But, from a more "behind the scenes" note: the reason Ben's not in the
> church, and the reason no one is in the church but for Season 1 people
> is because they wrote the ending to the show after writing the pilot.
> And never changed it. The writers always said (and many didn't believe
> them) that they knew their ending from the very first episode. I
> applaud them for that. It's pretty fantastic. Originally Ben was
> supposed to have a 3 episode arc and be done. But he became a big part
> of the show. They could have easily changed their ending and put him
> in the church -- but instead they problem solved it. Gave him a
> BRILLIANT moment with Locke outside the church ... and then that was
> it. I loved that. For those that wonder -- the original ending started
> the moment Jack walked into the church and touches the casket to Jack
> closing his eyes as the other plane flies away. That was always JJ's
> ending. And they kept it.
>
> For me the ending of this show means a lot. Not only because I worked
> on it, but because as a writer it inspired me in a way the medium had
> never done before. I've been inspired to write by great films. Maybe
> too many to count. And there have been amazing TV shows that I've
> loved (X-Files, 24, Sopranos, countless 1/2 hour shows). But none did
> what LOST did for me. None showed me that you could take huge risks
> (writing a show about faith for network TV) and stick to your creative
> guns and STILL please the audience. I learned a lot from the show as a
> writer. I learned even more from being around the incredible writers,
> producers, PAs, interns and everyone else who slaved on the show for 6
> years.
>
> In the end, for me, LOST was a touchstone show that dealt with faith,
> the afterlife, and all these big, spirtual questions that most shows
> don't touch. And to me, they never once waivered from their core story
> -- even with all the sci-fi elements they mixed in. To walk that long
> and daunting of a creative tightrope and survive is simply astounding.
>
> ------ End of Forwarded Message


Some interesting stuff, however he does state that only people from Season 1 are in the church and correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Juliet in the church and we did not meet her until Season 3.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:34 pm 
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Lost Finale Explained

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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:55 pm 
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Adam Smith wrote:
Why was Sayid all like "I've found the love of my life again" when he met Shannon in purgatory? I thought Nadia was his girl. They spent 4 seasons using Nadia as his motivation for everything, including him getting all dark, but in the last 20 min of the series he sees Shannon and is, like, re-united with his lost love. The fuck was that?

Maybe he's just a player after all. :)

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The big edge of the cliff battle between Jack and Evil John was hilarious, especially the jumping punch. It was almost meta. Like, "Here's a big fight scene"

In my brain, there was some serious Captain Kirk fight music going on here.

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That "heart of the island is the light in the heart of everyman" was an insane cop out. Geothermal electromagnets are the light in the heart of everyman? Is that what they were saying? From the Jacob backstory episode on, they pretty much gave up on explaining anything.

midi-chlorian stream, dude.

I liked how Kate sticking her arms into Claire's magic vajayjay woke her up, and the finale in general. It maybe wasn't the ending I'd have done, but it was good. And frankly I'm glad they did not try to answer everything; the mystery is part of what makes the show fun to discuss.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:51 pm 
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Anybody heard anything about AMC's new series Rubicon? it looks like it might be a possible candidate to give us former Lost addicts the dose of mystery we are jonesing for post finale.
http://defamer.gawker.com/5559279/amcs-rubicon-clover-and-dagger


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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:46 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:34 pm 
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DeVille wrote:

Starts off pretty harsh. After 4 or 5 entries so far, I think the reviewer(s) and I will disagree quite a bit (at least, as far as the justifications are concerned).

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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:42 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:22 am 
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You can bid on the Dharma VW Bus or Hurley's Camaro! Wish I was rich, I would totally buy that van.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:24 am 
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I haven't seen this posted yet. Man in Black's name revealed:

http://blastr.com/2010/08/losts-man-in-black-finall.php


edit:

Oh, I guess some people don't like Samuel. From lostpedia:

'"Samuel", often used as a reference to the character's initial casting call, and finally claimed by Kristin Dos Santos to be the Man in Black's real name (once the series had ended). It has since been officially dismissed by the ABC publicity department, and that its use was for casting calls only, to avoid red flags for fans.'


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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:37 am 
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supposedly walt is back in the bonus footage (16 mins. or something like that) that comes with the season 6 dvd set. I guess it mostly shows a snapshot of hurleys time in charge with ben as his #2.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:27 pm 
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DoctorRock wrote:
http://www.profilesinhistory.com/lost-the-auction.html

You can bid on the Dharma VW Bus or Hurley's Camaro! Wish I was rich, I would totally buy that van.

I want the hatch or the Virgin Mary statues (I wonder what their street value is...)

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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:34 pm 
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greenhorn1 wrote:
supposedly walt is back in the bonus footage (16 mins. or something like that) that comes with the season 6 dvd set. I guess it mostly shows a snapshot of hurleys time in charge with ben as his #2.
underspecialization wrote:
So, the basic question to be answered is: Who will inherit/become the protector of the island. Is that right?

For some reason, I can't get it out of my head that it will be Walt..Am I crazy?

WALT!!!

Alright, I haven't seen the bonus stuff, but word is that Hurley either gives the island to Walt or offers him some job, like Richard, or Dogen..

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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
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walt is the man..
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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
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this sucks pretty bad

enjoy!




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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:26 pm 
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this sucks pretty bad

enjoy!




I think I'm going to have to punch you in the head next time I see you for posting this.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost Season 6 - The Answers
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Netflix since May with a couple month layover while season 6 was released:

:?: :?: :?: :?: WHY :?: :?: :?: :?:
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