Bennett wrote:
corggirl, seems like we just have substantially different views on certain things. i most definitely did not think that MIB's village was wiped out by other people on the island. While we haven't seen Jacob actually killing any of the others or castaways, we have seen plenty instances where it was referred to as the island being done (or not done) with somebody, and the inevitability of that (charlie). maybe that's jacob's way... maybe that's smokey masquerading as "the island," (certainly it would seem so in michael's case, when christian appears and says, "you can go now" or whatever)... i don't know. Aside from MIB's village (which i view as evidence and you do not), there isn't much evidence of the island's "protector" being capable of doing much of anything but working a loom and baptizing a famished, escaped slave. Apparently this is where I am willing to assume certain things, because while there are certainly ways of protecting something without resorting to violence, a "Protector" without the ability to at least do so in last resort seems mildly useless.
in regards to BSuperstar's comments... again, just fundamentally does not make sense to me. Ben has shown at times a certain weaselly perseverance, but it just seems like a stretch for him to agree to kill the people that gave him a second chance in what was one of his darkest moments. Ben has no family, no friends (if he kills those still alive) no power without the island... and he just killed widmore... possibly the only other thing keeping him motivated. For smokey to believe that Ben would lick his bootheels out of fear of death alone doesn't make sense. We're talking about a guy that just pulled of a hundred-plus-year plan to kill one person. I'm thinking he learned looooooong ago that fear can only do so much to motivate a man, especially one so similar to himself in ben.
i'm kinda surprised that i'm the only one that has a problem with any of this shit.
I never said that MIB's village got wiped out by other people, just that I thought there were probably more people in addition to his village hiding somewhere on the island (I brought that up only to insinuate that Jacob doesn't 'bring' everyone who ever comes to the island).
And I'm not saying that fate doesn't play a big role in this. Sometimes I do think the Losties lives are already scripted, and certain things are going to happen. Ya know, whatever happened, happened and to a larger extent, whatever's gonna happen, will. I'm just saying that I don't think Jacob = fate. And I definitely think MIB/Smokey is the one who decides when the island is 'done' with someone.
I do think Mother was responsible for destroying MIB's village and people, but I do not think that Jacob is the same as Mother. I think MIB was the rightful heir, but he didn't want the job. And I'm more prone to believe that Mother possesed the qualities that Jacob and MIB now split. Jacob got the golden touch, can influence people's lives, can lead people to certain directions, while MIB got the destructive, protective qualities. It's just that MIB has been so hell-bent in getting off the island and full of rage and revenge that he's become much more dangerous.
Which is also why I believe that Aaron is the real protector of the light. I think he's going to be born in that sideways world and the two worlds are going to merge and he's going to get those qualities that should be in one person, one protector, instead of split between twins.
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