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Author:  abstraction [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:52 am ]
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thisoneholymedium wrote:
there were lawyers babysitting cops babysitting comfesters

I forgot to mention that as well. Anyway, the last thing I'm going to say on the subject, for now, is to apologize to Ramirez (and to whomever else my comments may have irritated) for the self-righteous aspects of my rant. I stand by my general dislike of fallacious complaints that center around false entitlement, but that was too preachy, even for me.

Also, I would gladly do The Phantods with the lights on.

Author:  thefiercelime [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:55 am ]
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If nice looking entertainers is what you're looking for, check out the Disney Channel or an upscale strip bar. Now I know why you like to watch bands in the dark. Perverts.

Author:  patradio [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:56 am ]
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abstraction wrote:
Also, I would gladly do The Phantods with the lights on.


Image

Author:  Tristannus [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:03 am ]
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Call it short attention span, my generation, or maybe I'm as shallow the Goodale pond. Whatever. The act of someone just playing their instrument is mostly a boring occasion for me. Most of my favorite bands are included in this sentiment. The more shit going behind and around them that takes focus off their persons (i.e. lights, darkness, shapes etc.) the more I'm able to focus on the music itself. Get it? Frank Black is a hell of a lot more interesting to listen to on a record than he is to watch live.

But....I really don't have any reason to explain myself to anyone other than Gretchen/The Phantods.

Author:  bug [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:09 am ]
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I feel inclined to throw in my two cents on this one. Personally, overweight guys with beards make me all twitterpated.

Author:  abstraction [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:16 am ]
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patradio wrote:
abstraction wrote:
Also, I would gladly do The Phantods with the lights on.


Image

What? What's wrong with saying that I'd go to one of their day shows? ....Ohhhhh. I guess it's possible to interpret that another way. It should've been obvious what I meant, but I'll grudgingly admit I could've worded that differently.

Author:  laurab [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:25 am ]
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Quote:
Refraining moderately from consumption never did anyone any harm.


FUCK YEAH ROCK N ROLL DUDE!

this dude must be really hot. NEKKID PICS, PLZ??

Author:  suebee [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:40 am ]
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Generally, the idea of watching 4 dudes on stage playing instruments & singing is, by nature, boring. That's why they do it in bars. So people can get drunk. And hug on each other. And point their beer bottle at the guitarist. And sing all the words. And get punk-neck from dancing. And the next morning, go back to their stinking job.
THAT'S a rock show. Right?

Author:  laurab [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:43 am ]
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bug wrote:
I feel inclined to throw in my two cents on this one. Personally, overweight guys with beards make me all twitterpated.


oh yeah, me too. I'm totally a straight-girl bear-chaser, for real.

Author:  Chris B. [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:50 am ]
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Bears babysitting twinks all oiled up and rocking. MOAR!

When am I not a snarf anymore?

Author:  patradio [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:55 am ]
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Chris B. wrote:
When am I not a snarf anymore?


Three more posts should do it. Hit the smilie icons hard.

Author:  abstraction [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:56 am ]
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Chris B. wrote:
When am I not a snarf anymore?

When the time is right, you'll be contacted and given a mission to complete.

Author:  bug [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:57 am ]
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laurab wrote:
oh yeah, me too. I'm totally a straight-girl bear-chaser, for real.

Yes! "straight-girl bear-chaser" is the phrase I've been looking for my whole life to describe myself!

Author:  laurab [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:59 am ]
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straight-girl bear-chasers unite!!

your profile pic is awesome!

Author:  tuxspeedo [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:25 pm ]
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Tristannus wrote:
Gretchen wrote:
Tristannus wrote:
Rushed the fuck out of my place to see Jenny Mae......I'm glad I did. What I saw has nothing to do with how I view her and what she did in the 90's. I have her album and that's all I need.

Town Monster was actually good. Carnival-rock...yes. But decidedly less so today. "The Shine" and I think the song after it were fucking awesome.

Went to Gazebo to see Lydia Loveless, arrived early and got to see some girl playing acoustic guitar by herself, very rudimentary, covering MGMT's "Kids." It was so awful and so heartfelt that I was totally confused on how I should feel at the given moment. Then I realized that most evil is really heartfelt. :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :boohoo:

Aperture was ok. I love that band, but I love them more when the lights are off. Same with The Phantods. It's amazing how much you realize "rocking out" is very relative, and pretty stupid. When you see guys with overgrown beards and beer bellies "rocking out" in the unflattering light of day it's very, decidedly, non-magical. I mean, but I'm of the opinion: if you still hold on to enough to enough ego to be in a rock band, then hold on to enough ego to fucking take care of yourself and stay away from the fucking fried food and cheap beer.

I'm looking forward to Saturday. Great bands most of the day, and I can't drink because I'm playing later on afterwards. Sunglasses on. Conversation off.


This comment was brought to my attention and out of love and respect for my bandmates, as well as sensitivity to this issue in general, I felt like I wanted to respond.

One of the problems with the music spectators of today is that people are way too critical of how musicians look. They are already judging them for the way they sound and the music they create but there is such an obsession with this idea of perfection. This allows the artist very little room to be human. Wouldn't you rather music come from a place that is real and raw and relatable? And don't get me wrong, I am no less at fault. I at times obsess over the way I'm perceived and some days take a long time getting ready for shows, for fear of being judged in those moments when I am already at my most vulnerable: on stage performing in front of people. In front of the spectators. 

Now, I'd like to think that you don't maliciously point things out like this, these "non-magical" opinions. But I still think it would be nice if people were more sensitive to the fact that just because we may be pursuing something that is drawing a lot of attention towards us, we are not any less sensitive to how these opinions effect us. My musical ambitions have very little to do with the desire to be in front of people, but instead has everything to do with the fact that I feel that I am meant to be doing this. And doing this also means that we are on display.

I was never in a band until I reached my twenties, but even when I wasn't in the public eye people always had an opinion on my body, usually to tell me that I was fat or more recently some have even told me I am too thin in comparison to what they were used to seeing me as. I bring this up because while I may not be the one on display in your comment, this could very well be about me in the future and nothing protects me from that. The bottom line is that you can't please everyone, a lot of women find overgrown beards sexy, and I'm offended that you think music is about having a rock ego that keeps you svelte and perfect. Because everyone knows rock is about perfection.

Who wants to join me for some fried chicken and a PBR? ;)



Hm....I thought I clarified that I wasn't really talking about your band as far the overweight/bearded thing goes. I don't even really remember what anyone in your band looks like beyond you.

It was shitty wording, I'll admit. But all I was saying about you guys is that it was the first time I saw your outside of a nightclub setting where you guys always looked really cool with all the lights and aura that a club provides. Every show is different under the glare of the sun. I prefer darker settings. Like I said in my previous post, I should have a put a paragraph break between your band and "overweight guys with beards." I was going on a different tangent...

I dig your band alot so I hope you don't automatically go on the defensive with that comment. It really wasn't about you guys..

As far as visual presentation, however....I understand what you mean about "real and raw" and plain being more important than spectacularly fake. But, "real and raw" is really just what an individual perceives it to be. What some might think is real rocknroll I might think is simple mediocre posturing. While some might think the simple act of turning up your amp and singing poorly into the mic is the essence of rock, I might think they're just lazy and too boring to do anything else.

A skinny guy in tight jeans and eyeliner might be a pretentious asshole, but a guy in sandals, an oversized tshirt and a beer belly could be just as much of an asshole. A dude's lack of trying is usually just as ridiculous as a dude trying too hard. It's the same thing. Refraining moderately from consumption never did anyone any harm. Refraining too much or barely at all usually does.



as a member of a fairly unattractive band, I would suggest maybe cutting us all a little slack.....not everyone can pull off the "Evanessence/Russell Brand hatefuck baby" look with a straight face.

Author:  superunison [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:32 pm ]
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tuxspeedo wrote:
as a member of a fairly unattractive band, I would suggest maybe cutting us all a little slack.....not everyone can pull off the "Evanessence/Russell Brand hatefuck baby" look with a straight face.


except me

Author:  superunison [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:40 pm ]
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Author:  Tristannus [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:50 pm ]
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Quote:
as a member of a fairly unattractive band, I would suggest maybe cutting us all a little slack.....not everyone can pull off the "Evanessence/Russell Brand hatefuck baby" look with a straight face.


:clap: :clap:

Maybe everyone takes themselves too seriously. A straight face is half the battle.

Author:  thefiercelime [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:28 pm ]
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We have a really hot drummer.

Author:  Jawbreaker [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:06 pm ]
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I'm hoping this thread yields some tips on picking up chix.

I need all the help I can get, but a beard is out of the question.

Author:  groundrules [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:47 am ]
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Jawbreaker wrote:
I'm hoping this thread yields some tips on picking up chix.

I need all the help I can get, but a beard is out of the question.


remember when TOHM had a beerd? maaaaan. those were good times.

Author:  Cookie [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:48 am ]
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groundrules wrote:
remember when TOHM had a beerd? maaaaan. those were good times.


Pics or it didn't happen.

Author:  DeVille [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:21 pm ]
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Review

Author:  abstraction [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:41 pm ]
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DeVille wrote:

Sorry about the beer again. :oops: :oops:

Author:  Joelseph [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:45 pm ]
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Comfest-inspired vocabulary:

Quote:
Created a new use for an old word this weekend, after witnessing some of the celebrants of ComFest 2010. Feel free to use and abuse!

Mogwai (noun)

1. A trouble-making person spotted in daylight hours, prior to alcohol/drug use and anger issues transforming them into complete fucking assholes. Named in reference to the adorable Gizmo from 1984’s Gremlins, an adorable creature that spawns nihilistic, violent creatures when any of the rules of ownership are broken.

Usage:

* “Dude, did you spot the Mogwais near the beer tent? Keep an eye on those fuckers… it’s getting dark soon.”


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