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Author:  groundrules [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:37 pm ]
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somebody needs a wake-up slap.

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Bill could limit open debate at colleges
Lawmaker says profs are pushing agendas
Thursday, January 27, 2005
Kathy Lynn Gray
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


Legislation that would restrict what university professors could say in their classrooms was introduced yesterday in Ohio.

Judging from reactions in other states where similar bills have been considered, controversy won’t be far behind.

Marion Sen. Larry A. Mumper’s "academic bill of rights for higher education" would prohibit instructors at public or private universities from "persistently" discussing controversial issues in class or from using their classes to push political, ideological, religious or anti-religious views.

Senate Bill 24 also would prohibit professors from discriminating against students based on their beliefs and keep universities from hiring, firing, promoting or giving tenure to instructors based on their beliefs.

Mumper, a Republican, said many professors undermine the values of their students because "80 percent or so of them (professors) are Democrats, liberals or socialists or card-carrying Communists" who attempt to indoctrinate students.

"These are young minds that haven’t had a chance to form their own opinions," Mumper said. "Our colleges and universities are still filled with some of the ’60s and ’70s profs that were the anti-American group. They’ve gotten control of how to give people tenure and so the colleges continue to move in this direction."

Joan McLean, a political-science professor at Ohio Wesleyan University, said Mumper’s legislation is misguided and would have a chilling effect on the free-flowing debate that is a hallmark of democracy.

"This is not the kind of democracy we think we’re spreading when we hear President Bush’s words. What we’re celebrating is our ability to not control information."

Besides, McLean said, who would define what issues could not be discussed?

The language of Mumper’s bill comes from a 2003 booklet by conservative commentator David Horowitz that lays out how students can persuade universities to adopt the "bill of rights." The booklet says it is "dedicated to restoring academic freedom and educational values to America’s institutions of higher learning."

The issue has gone national.

Horowitz created Students for Academic Freedom, a group based in Washington that has chapters on 135 campuses, to promote his views.

On the other side, the American Association of University Professors, which has thousands of members at hundreds of campuses, argues that eliminating controversial issues from courses waters down academic freedoms.

Mumper said he’s been investigating the issue for months and has heard of an Ohio student who said she was discriminated against because she supported Bush for president.

"I think the bill asks that colleges and universities be fair in their approach to their education of students," Mumper said. "They need to have their rights defended and need to be respected by faculty and administrators."

In a Kenyon College publication, President S. Georgia Nugent called Horowitz’s thinking "a severe threat" to academic freedom.

"I see this so-called bill of rights, the platform that he has constructed, as one that would explicitly introduce into college and university appointments a kind of political litmus test," she said.

Mumper said he will "push this all the way" so that it’s approved by either the legislature or by individual universities.

When a similar proposal was considered in the Colorado legislature last year, it was withdrawn after state universities agreed to some of its principles. The issue also has been debated in Indiana and considered in Congress.

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Author:  Jawbreaker [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:00 pm ]
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does defending free speech/thought on campus (fighting "speech codes", etc...) Someone should forward this to them.

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Author:  unpossibles [ Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:47 pm ]
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ignorance allows ease of control and training.

The bias against education (or at least against non-state propagandist education) is spreading. This trend has been building for a while - listen to Lush RImbaugh if you do not believe me. Sure, he's an idiot, but he's a popular idiot whose followers (self-proclaimed "dittoheads" ironically) do not question him.

wonder if this also has Heritage Foundation attachments - sure stinks like it does.

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